Cure For Addiction Ep. 83 The Recovered On Purpose Show

Episode 83 The Recovered On Purpose Show WeekEnd ReCap! As always on the WeekEnd ReCap we are celebrating clean and sober time together so bring those dates and celebrate with us! We are going to be discussing the different ways people have been finding recovery and how we can work together to find a solution that has higher success. I am also sharing my experience with a psychedelic medicine that cured me of heroin withdrawal and craving that is being voted on in Colorado to be legalized! For free resources visit: https://RecoveredOnPurpose.org

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Exploring Ibogaine: A Potential Cure for Addiction

In a world where addiction is a relentless adversary to human well-being, the quest for a definitive cure is ongoing. Among the many frontiers being explored, one of the most intriguing potential solutions is the use of psychedelic medicines, with ibogaine at the forefront. In this extensive review, we’re delving deep into the promise and challenges of ibogaine to stand as an ally in the battle against addiction.

Understanding Ibogaine

What Is Ibogaine?

Ibogaine is a psychoactive substance derived from the root of the Tabernanthe iboga plant. It has been used for centuries in initiation ceremonies by the Bwiti religion in West Africa, and its introduction to Western culture has most notably centered around its potential to treat addiction.

History and Traditional Use

Long before its Western world fame, ibogaine was administered in spiritual rituals to obtain tribal knowledge, connect with ancestors, and bring about vision quests. This traditional role has cast a spiritual significance on the compound that persists today, even as it is being repurposed for clinical applications.

Mechanism of Action in Treating Addiction

Ibogaine is understood to work on multiple levels in the brain, interacting with various neurotransmitters linked to addiction pathways. The most profound effect may be its interaction with the dopamine system, thought to be a key player in the cycle of addiction and reward.

The Benefits of Ibogaine in Addiction Recovery

Reduction of Withdrawal Symptoms

One of the most immediate and critical benefits of ibogaine therapy is its reported ability to significantly diminish withdrawal symptoms in individuals battling substance dependence. This period of reprieve can be a pivotal moment for an individual to break the cycle of addiction.

Psychological Insights and Introspection

Beyond the physical alleviation, ibogaine is believed to offer psychological insight by inducing a state of introspective learning. In this state, many experience a profound understanding of their addiction and personal issues, facilitating the cognitive and emotional process vital to lasting recovery.

Long-Term Success Rates

Emerging data suggests that, for some, a single ibogaine treatment may result in considerable and sustained reduction in craving and substance use. While further studies are necessary to establish concrete long-term success rates, the potential for a one-time intervention to produce enduring change is a tantalizing prospect for the field of addiction treatment.

Challenges and Risks of Ibogaine Treatment For Addiction

Safety Concerns and Potential Side Effects

Ibogaine is not without risks, and reports of sudden death following treatment have been documented. This is often attributed to its effects on heart rhythm, leading to cardiac arrhythmias. As such, screening for contraindications is paramount, and many experts advocate for ibogaine to be administered in a medical setting with cardiac monitoring.

Legal Status and Regulation Issues

The regulatory landscape for ibogaine is complex and varies widely across the globe. The United States, for example, lists ibogaine as a Schedule I controlled substance, even as some jurisdictions have decriminalized or legalized it. This inconsistency presents a significant barrier to research and treatment access.

Lack of Standardized Protocols

The absence of standardized dosing and treatment protocols is one of the chief challenges in the field. The variability in treatment regimens poses risks and hinders consistent outcomes. The establishment of universal guidelines, combined with training for practitioners, could mitigate these issues.

Case Studies and Success Stories of Ibogaine Treatment

Real-Life Examples of Individuals Benefiting from Ibogaine Treatment

The shift from anecdotal evidence to a robust clinical basis is underway, with a growing body of individual stories marking ibogaine as a turning point in the lives of those grappling with addiction. One example is the acclaimed journalist and author, Hunter S. Thompson, who credited ibogaine with his ability to cease heavy alcohol and heroin use.

Ethical Considerations of Ibogaine Treatment

Discussion on Ethical Use and Accessibility of Ibogaine for Addiction Treatment

As the momentum to explore psychedelic therapies continues, questions of equity and ethical use come to the forefront. Ensuring that promising treatments like ibogaine are accessible and applied with integrity is a critical conversation within the addiction recovery community and beyond.

Conclusion

While the journey of ibogaine from sacred root to controversial cure is filled with challenges, its promise as a treatment modality for addiction is hard to ignore. As advocates push for expanded research and responsible integration into recovery programs, the prospect of a world where addiction is treated not as a life sentence but a curable condition moves closer to reality. The careful navigation of risks, along with the ascent of patient safety, legality, and standardized practices, will be the landmarks guiding us to a future where ibogaine and its kin may very well usher in a new era of addiction recovery.

Full Episode 83 The Recovered On Purpose Show Transcript

(0:00) What is up my beautiful Recovered On Purpose family? I’m so excited you’re here for this (0:05) week’s episode of Weekend Recap right here on the Recovered On Purpose show. Today we’re going (0:10) to be talking about different pathways to finding recovery and how we can come together to find a (0:16) solution that’s actually working. I love you guys so much. Enjoy the show and keep living Recovered (0:20) On Purpose.

What is up everybody? Happy Friday. Happy Friday.Super stoked that you are (0:53) here. Guys, just like every week on Weekend Recap, drop your clean and sober dates, drop where you’re (0:58) coming in from so the people coming in that are still trying to find a recovery know that this (1:02) is possible. Today we’re going to be talking about the different pathways of recovery, the (1:07) ones that you’ve used, the ones that different people are looking into, and I’m going to talk (1:11) about an experience I had in 2013 with one form of recovery that I think might be coming out very (1:17) soon in the United States that I’m super excited about.

Guys, go ahead and drop in. We’re (1:22) celebrating today. We’re celebrating today. Shannon, struggling every day. I hear you, Shannon. (1:27) We are here for you. We love you in this community. I was there. I was there. Sunday is five years for (1:34) me, and five years ago today I was homeless.

I was 86 from a homeless shelter. I was unable to stop (1:41) shooting up drugs, and recovery is possible. Recovery is 100% possible, and there’s going to (1:46) be people dropping in this live saying hi, telling you their clean and sober dates, and letting you (1:50) know that it’s possible too. Kelly’s got 60 days today. Let’s go, Kelly. Congratulations on 60 days. (1:58) That’s amazing. Super, super proud of you, and keep going. Keep going.

This is amazing, and I love (2:04) seeing you in here because I’ve been seeing you basically your entire recovery. These entire 60 (2:08) days I’ve been seeing you come in here, and man, this community is amazing. Love this community. (2:13) Kelly, congratulations. Love from SLC. Love back to you. Angelica, Martinez, good to see you. (2:19) Hello, Jayla, what’s up? Good to see you, Jayla. Gwen, hi, coming in from Simsbury, Connecticut. (2:27) CT is Connecticut.

What’s up, Gwen? Good to see you. Andrew, yo, bro. What’s up, bro? January 4th, 2021. (2:33) Let’s go. We got, what, two more months until you got two years. Let’s go, brother. Congratulations.(2:40) Congratulations. Garrett coming in with six months sober as of Tuesday. Congratulations, Garrett.(2:46) Killing it with the beard game too, bro. Looking good. Looking good.

Today is day one, and I have (2:52) faith. We have faith in you too, Cynthia. Good work. Way to make the decision on your recovery. (2:58) Keep going, and whatever pathway that you are choosing, we’re going to talk about some (3:01) pathways today, but whichever one you’re choosing, go 100% all in. 100% all in, whether it’s going to (3:08) treatment, whether it’s doing medically assisted treatment or a 12-step program. Do it every (3:13) single day as if your life depends on it. You got this, girl. We’re all here for you. I understand, (3:19) Shannon. I understand. We’re here for you. Recovery got my kids back.

Let’s go, Angelica, (3:23) getting the kids back and showing hope, giving hope to everybody. Tina, five months sober next (3:29) Tuesday. Let’s go. Good to see you, Tina. Coming in from, I don’t even know where you’re at now, (3:33) somewhere in Europe, somewhere in Europe. We got Cot coming in with, what is that? (3:41) 20, 30, 34 years. We got 34 years in the house. What’s up? Good to see you. Thank you for blessing (3:50) the community, showing us that this is possible. Amen.

We got 34 years in the house. Let’s go. (3:56) Danny coming in with day two. I’m battling, but not caving. Amen, Danny. We got your back, girl. (4:01) Way to be here. Keep showing up. Whatever you’re doing for your recovery path, go 100% all in. (4:07) Again, like I was saying a couple minutes ago, whatever it is, whatever the pathway is that (4:11) you’re taking, make sure that you’re going 100% in with it.

There’s a lot of different pathways (4:16) to find recovery. A lot of us do a lot of different things in order to find recovery. (4:21) Whichever one you are doing, go 100% all in, all in with everything you got. Nine months on the (4:29) 13th. Let’s go, Adam. Got nine months in the house. Amen, amen. Cynthia praying I can do this. (4:35) We’re praying for you too. God, we just bless everybody on this live right now. We bless (4:39) everybody that will watch the replay. God, we just ask that you would show up into their life (4:43) in a new way this week, God, in a new way.

Anybody that’s struggling in addiction, (4:48) struggling in early recovery, God, we just ask that you would put the people into their life (4:51) that will show them the pathway and the journey to take for them. God, anybody that’s in recovery (4:56) right now, that’s struggling with purpose, struggling with any thoughts of relapse or (5:00) anything like that, God, we just ask that you would go into their life as well right now in (5:04) a new way. Help them to progress deeper with you.

Help them to get closer to you, God. We thank you (5:09) and we ask you to be in this live. Anybody out there that needs to hear a message, God, (5:14) we just ask for the correct comment to come in that’s from you, God, for them.God, I just ask (5:19) that your words would be spoken in this live. We love you in your name. Amen, amen.(5:25) Got Gwen coming in. Hi, hi, good to see you, Jayla. I’m doing good.

I’m doing good today. (5:30) Today is a good day. Did some work, made some content today and just working on some things.(5:36) I’ve got a lot of people in the Recovery Speaker course that are doing amazing things now. People (5:42) are getting paid to speak and we just started a new part of the program. The graduates are going (5:47) to be coaching other people in this curriculum as well to make more and more people out there (5:52) doing recovery speaking.

We’re doing good things. We’re doing good things. WTD Danny, (5:59) Tucson, Arizona, 307.I went to rehab 12, 28, 22 and fell in love with myself ever since. Amen. (6:06) I’m guessing that’s 12, 28 of 21.Amazing. Amen. Let’s go.

Coming up on a year. Let’s go, AP. (6:14) I need some resources.I don’t have any support out here, any ideas. Cynthia, let us know where (6:18) you are at in the world. Let us know where you’re at in the world.A beautiful resource that we have (6:23) now in recovery is, it seems cliche, but Google. Google recovery meetings near and then put your (6:31) city in there. There might be 12-step programs nearby.There might be churches that have recovery (6:38) programs near you. There’s all kinds of different things as well as these online meetings. We’re (6:43) doing this right now together.We’re doing these things right now together. Then there’s a whole (6:47) bunch of other Zoom meetings that have a bunch of people in recovery coming together and working (6:51) together. If you just hop on Google and look for support, look for recovery support online, (6:58) recovery groups near, and then put your city that you’re in.It’s really, really simple now (7:03) with the state of the internet to find recovery and to find groups. Love you and thank you for (7:07) being here. If you want to send me a message on this page and we’ll find you some resources.(7:12) Okay. Amen. Amen.

I got four months today. Let’s go, Lance. Good to see you, bro.Let’s go with (7:19) the four months. We got the celebration lights on for you, brother. Amen.Amen. Almost two years. We (7:25) got almost two years in the house.Let’s go. Sitting on the front porch with my grandson and (7:30) all the things over missed. Wow.I can change. Amen, Shannon. We got you.We got you. Gwen, (7:35) I’m still using, but I don’t want to use anymore. I’m going to outpace your program next week.

Good (7:40) to make the decision, Gwen. The beautiful thing that I found about recovery, a lot of people think (7:45) that, and I’ve heard people tell me this, they don’t want to go to the rooms. They don’t want (7:50) to go to fellowships or something because they’re still using.The thing is, basically everybody I (7:55) know, me personally, I was going to meetings high. I had to start my recovery journey while I was (8:01) still using, while I was still drinking. The reason why is because I couldn’t stop.I had to find the (8:06) solution while I was still using. It’s good. We love to see you here.We know that you don’t want (8:11) to use. We understand that. We’ve all been there.It’s amazing that you made the decision to go do (8:15) some outpatient treatment, to go do some different groups and things. No matter what, no matter what, (8:21) if you use or not, just keep showing up. Keep showing up to whatever group support that you’re (8:26) doing, whatever outpatient support that you’re doing, and just keep showing up no matter what.(8:31) There’s no shame here. Shame is not allowed in this community. We don’t have it.We don’t have (8:35) it. What’s up, Paul? Good to see you coming in from Quincy, Washington, coming up on three years (8:41) and five months clean. Let’s go.Wednesday night, I share my testimony at a church. Way to go, (8:46) Kelly. Let’s go.Amen. That’s what it’s all about, us being in recovery, being loud about our (8:52) recovery, getting out there and sharing our stories, sharing our testimonies. The beautiful (8:56) thing, when you share your testimony in a church or you share somewhere that isn’t just a 12-step (9:03) fellowship group, when we share out loud, when we share publicly about our journey of addiction (9:09) and recovery, the thing is that people in that crowd, people in that church that are suffering (9:14) in silence will hear your message, will hear that story, and they’ll be able to reach out.They’ll (9:21) be able to reach out for help. They’ll know that they’re not alone with it because a lot of people (9:24) out there in the community will be struggling and think that there’s nowhere for them to go (9:29) and think that they can’t reach out because they feel alone. That’s why we have to be out there (9:33) loud, proud about our recovery, sharing our testimonies in churches, sharing our stories (9:38) online, sharing our stories wherever we possibly can, because right now in America alone, (9:44) 47% of American adults have someone in their life right now that they love and are connected with (9:50) that is struggling with substance use disorder.47%. Half the country of adults have someone (9:58) in their life right now that is struggling with addiction. If we are out there sharing our (10:04) stories, we’re sharing our testimonies, we’re being loud about it, the beautiful thing is that (10:08) one in two people that hear our story will be connected with it, will have someone in their (10:15) life right then when we’re sharing it that they will be thinking about.

Proud of you, Kelly. Keep (10:19) going. Keep going.Amen. Amen. Amen.Been sober two months. I haven’t had any recovery post notifications (10:25) in a while. I’ve been tempted today, and now this pops up.Let’s go, Ginger. That’s what I’m (10:30) talking about. God’s showing up and saying what’s up to you, Ginger, and that’s amazing.That’s (10:35) amazing. That’s what it’s all about, and we got to continue being loud about this. We got to continue (10:39) being loud and proud in our recovery because the thing is that this is happening all over the (10:44) place.

This is happening all over the place, and imagine if there were … For me, the number is (10:50) 10,000. Imagine if there were 10,000 of us doing this, doing live videos, doing recovery posts, (10:57) being on social media, being loud and public and proud about our recovery and talking about it. (11:03) That’s a lot of people to reach people that need the message right in that moment, (11:08) right in that moment.The thing is that we don’t do this alone. We weren’t able to (11:12) recover alone. We don’t have to do our life in recovery alone.

That’s not the point. The point (11:18) is we have a community together. Recovered on Purpose was never about me.It was never about (11:23) getting my story out. That’s never been what the purpose of this is. The purpose is to lift (11:28) everybody in this recovery community up to be living on purpose, to be sharing our stories, (11:33) to be talking loud and proud in public, to reach the addict out there that’s still suffering.(11:38) The beautiful thing is that every single person that’s in recovery … You have two months. (11:43) There is a whole bunch of people right now in this moment that have zero to 59 days, (11:51) zero to 59 days in recovery, and they need your message. Ginger, they need your message.(11:57) The beautiful thing is that you’ve got it. You’ve got it, and God has you right now, (12:01) because if this just showed up for you, it’s exactly where you’re supposed to be, (12:05) and I’m proud of you for being here. Lance coming in.I’m in Sober Living, (12:09) four months clean. Let’s go, Lance. Congratulations.Way to go, brother. Way to go. (12:14) Check out Sober Hustle.

Amen. Thank you for this page from the UK. Adam coming in.Another Adam. (12:21) What’s up, Adam? I’m Adam. Nice to meet you, Adam.Coming in from the UK. We got a bunch of (12:25) different countries coming in. We got Aaron coming in right here, coming in from Australia, (12:30) about to get his son back.What is that? In a few days, you’re going to have full 100% custody. (12:35) You’re going to have full guardianship and everything in a few days, Aaron. That’s what (12:40) recovery is about, guys.

Aaron is in Australia. He struggled in addiction for years and found out (12:46) that he had a son recently, a 10-year-old son. He found out recently, and his ex didn’t tell him (12:52) about him, and the government hit him up while he’s in recovery.

God does that with his timing. (12:59) Hey, you’re ready now. You’re ready now to be a father, to be a dad to this young man.(13:06) Aaron is actually able to be that person now, to show up. Man, it’s just beautiful what we’re (13:13) able to do in recovery. Scott coming in from Michigan.What’s up? 215.20. If I can do it, (13:19) you guys can too. God bless. Amen.

Amen, Kenzie and Hunter. Amen. That’s actually my (13:26) belly button birthday.That is my belly button birthday, February 15th. Let’s go. Let’s go.(13:33) SoberHustleClub on IG. Okay. Almost two years, AA, four years, NA, IA, seven, 12, SC.I don’t (13:42) know what all that means, but I’m sure that other people can decipher it. We got two years, AA, (13:48) four years, NA. So what, six years of recovery? Let’s go.Congratulations, Anthony. Good to see (13:52) you, brother. Cynthia, Lincolnton, North Carolina.

Great to see you. Great to see you. The (13:58) 15th.I’ll have a month now long, but it is for me. Sherry, I remember how long it took me to get (14:05) a month. It took me years to get those 30 days.And I remember that day, the first time that I (14:11) got 30 days. And this is the first time in my recovery that I’ve ever had over 30 days. And (14:15) I have over 30 days, obviously.

I have five years on Sunday, but the amount of work that it took (14:20) for me to get that month, to get that first 30 days of recovery, I’ll never forget. I will never (14:27) forget the amount of time and energy it took me to get that first month. Now, it is a long time.(14:34) There is a long time ahead of you now. And Sherry, there’s so much to live for now. (14:41) Whatever you’re doing, whatever’s gotten you this month, keep doing that and keep adding more (14:46) positive things into your life.

And whatever negativity is around you, whatever people you (14:51) know in your heart you need to just kind of exit out, it’s a really strong place to start doing (14:57) that right now. Right now. In the first month, the first two months, just start recognizing who (15:03) you want to have around you, who you want to have in your circle, and start attracting those people (15:08) and start getting the other people out.

That’s, for me, that’s been the most empowering thing (15:14) for my recovery that I started doing in early recovery, is only spending time with the quality (15:20) people that were going to help me get to where I wanted to go, that were going to help me stay (15:25) in recovery, that were going to help me get to the next goal in life, get to the next progress in (15:31) life, and not being around the people that were hitting me up, offering me to go to a bar, (15:36) offering me to go to the trap house or whatever it was at the time. Amen. Amen.Scott, 53 days (15:43) clean. Let’s go, Scott. Like the haircut, brother.You got the… Man, right before doing this show, (15:50) I’m going to tell you guys, I had a beard, and a lot of you have seen it. I had facial hair, (15:55) and I put the wrong clippers on my clippers, and I shaved off all my hair. I was like, (16:00) oh no, because I did one here, and it took off so much hair.I was like, oh, well, I can’t stop now. (16:05) Got to keep going. Got to keep going.Gwen, good to see you in treatment within the DMV area. (16:11) Coming up on six months clean. Let’s go, Sean.Congratulations. Lance, I love you too, brother. (16:17) Love you too.I’m one year and one month clean. Let’s go, Jen. One year and one month.Let’s go. (16:23) We got the celebration lights on for you. 13 months.Let’s go. Amen. Amen.Good luck, everybody. (16:30) Blessings all. My name is If.A blessed recovery addict. My clean time is 12, 26, 18. Moving on (16:40) five years.Let’s go, brother, from PA. It’s amazing. I got five years on Sunday.You got (16:46) five years coming up in a month and 22 days. Amazing. Amazing.Coming up on six months clean. (16:52) Having the best time of my life. Yes, and that is what recovery is about, guys.Who out there (16:57) is having an amazing time in their recovery? Even if their recovery is a struggle right now, (17:05) because I know for me, I’ve had a lot of struggles in my recovery. I’ve had a lot of things come up, (17:10) a lot of different hard times in my recovery, but there has not been a day in my recovery (17:17) that was worse than when I was out there, when I was homeless, when I was unable to (17:23) stop using drugs, when I just had no other ambitions in life except to stop using drugs (17:29) and I couldn’t. Recovery is a beautiful, beautiful life.When we’re living on that pink cloud, (17:37) that pink cloud isn’t something that has to be evasive. It doesn’t have to be something that we (17:44) only have in our early recovery. The pink cloud can be a state of being that we have for the rest (17:50) of our life in recovery.We’re excited about it. We’re waking up on purpose. We’re getting out.(17:55) We’re sharing our story. We’re helping addicts. We’re reaching goals.We’re doing the things that (17:59) we always wanted to do. We’re getting involved in groups and activities and hobbies and sports and (18:04) things like that that we’ve always wanted to do, but weren’t able to do in our addiction. (18:08) The thing is, is that all of this is possible now that we’ve found recovery.Sean, (18:13) living the best life. Love it. Love it.Myrtha, going on eight years. Praise God. You delivered (18:20) me on July 7th, 2016.Let’s go. Thank you for being here. Super proud of you.All glory to God. (18:27) Amen. Amen.Amen. We are not alone. Amen.We are not alone. We are not alone. We work together (18:34) on this community.We work together in this community. That’s what this live is about. I’m (18:43) that heal.It’s time we find them words again for a lot of people who forgot how to forgive (18:48) themselves and others. Amen, Anthony. Amen.Finally, a day of work when you’re live again. (18:54) Good to see you, Aaron. It’s always good to see you, brother.I’m so proud of you. I’m so proud (18:57) of you. Today, we love you more to be revealed.Amen. You really helped me. Sophia, you really (19:03) helped me.Love you. Few days, May 18th. We got the two weeks, and Aaron’s going to have his son, (19:10) full custody of his son, something that doesn’t happen when we’re in our addiction.(19:16) God doesn’t do that kind of stuff when we’re not able to handle it. Aaron, he was put in your life (19:22) again. You have been given stewardship of his life, and you are worthy.You are capable, (19:28) and you are able 100%. I’m so proud of you, man. I’m so proud of you.I love recovering out loud (19:33) and your whole message, brother. Love you too, Kyle. It’s good to see you, man.(19:37) Coming in from Cleveland, Ohio, and we’re coming up on six months. Coming up on six months. Let’s (19:44) go.Love you too. God bless you for your work. Amen.Good to see you, Leslie. Lincolnton, (19:50) North Carolina. My clean date is today.Let’s go, Cynthia. Good to see you. Keep this up, (19:55) my man.I will do my best. I will keep doing my thing. Coming up on six months.All glory to God. (20:01) Amen. Amen.Amen. Sober Samurai, got to shout you out. Managing sober houses and raising my (20:08) 11-year-old daughter by myself every day is a blessing and struggle combined, but I wouldn’t (20:13) change any of it.Amen. Amen. There’s so many things that we could… It has a lot to do with (20:20) the perspective that we have on life.The perspective we have on life is extremely (20:24) important in recovery. We can look at obstacles and things that are going on in our recovery and (20:30) things that are going on in our life as things that can bring us down. We can say, oh, this is (20:35) so hard and life is a struggle and things like that.Or we can look at the things that are coming (20:39) at us as opportunities to grow. We have a life in recovery where we are able to show up and make (20:47) things happen in our recovery that we were never able to do in our addiction. We are managing sober (20:52) houses, raising our kids, living a blessed life.Life can be a struggle, but the thing is when we (21:01) look at it that we wouldn’t change any of it. We wouldn’t change any of it because it’s a blessing. (21:06) It’s a blessing to have this life.The odds of us being alive right now are… The math isn’t (21:12) even worth trying. The math isn’t even worth trying because us being alive right now in this time (21:18) with this body, instead of being born as like a rock or something or a bug, we were born as a (21:25) human being in the late 1900s or the early 2000s. Come on.We are able to witness so many different (21:34) things and the only thing that was really holding us back were drugs and alcohol. Now we have the (21:40) opportunity to be free of these things that were chaining us down in our life. Now we have the (21:45) opportunity to go live our life on purpose, on mission, and doing everything that we’ve always (21:49) wanted to do.Amen. Made me able to realize how much blessings come with sobriety. Even the (21:54) smallest things I get to notice and be proud and grateful for, not to mention making memories both (21:59) I and my kids would want to remember.Amen, Angelica. I love it. Love it.My sister people, (22:05) places, and things, I was broken on to the end. When I came in, I did a 90 and 90 with no (22:11) interruptions. Now I’m on my way to five years with God’s mercy and grace.Amen. Amen. A lot of (22:17) us coming up on five years.I got five years on Sunday. We got people coming in with five years (22:21) later this month, some with five years next month. It’s amazing.I was meant to listen to this today (22:26) from England. We got Amy coming in from England. Great to see you, Amy.My custody case just (22:32) started in July. I know it did, Kyle, and the beautiful thing is that you get to show up. (22:36) You get to show up to that thing.You get to be the best you possible. (22:43) Whatever happens, God is with you. God is with you.Amen. Jennifer throwing in the hearts. Good (22:49) to see you.All right, guys. We’re going to hop over to… We’re going to talk about defining (22:53) success and what success actually looks like for someone trying to find recovery. I want to hear (22:58) what your thoughts about this are because a lot of different places will define success differently, (23:05) whether it’s someone that gets over 30 days, someone that gets over a year, someone that (23:11) when they relapse, they only relapse for a couple days.There’s all kinds of different definitions (23:15) of success for people finding recovery because we’re going to be talking about statistics and (23:21) things for different journeys and different pathways to recovery. I wanted to define success (23:26) right now with y’all. I want to hear what you think success is for someone finding recovery, (23:31) for someone that is looking for recovery.For me, it’s when you find… When you are able to (23:37) get 30 days and continue on a program, continue on a pathway, continue on some kind of habitual (23:43) living day in and day out that is keeping you clean and sober. That’s what success is for me. (23:48) I believe that the first 30 days are just so difficult to get.They’re so difficult to get. (23:54) Once you get those 30 days, you did something. You made some kind of drastic change.You had to (24:02) live some kind of different way in order to get 30 full days clean and sober. From going from there, (24:09) the success to me is a year. It goes from 30 days to a year for me because so many of us drop off (24:17) in that first year.The relapse rates for the first year are like 85% or more if you go to (24:24) long-term treatment. If you go to a treatment that’s 28 days or longer, the relapse rates are (24:29) 85% or higher within the first year. It’s 40% to 60% in the first 30 days.When I’m looking at a (24:37) treatment center, when I’m looking at the success rates of a rehab facility, I’m going to be asking (24:43) what percentage of people are staying clean and sober after one year? That’s my question. (24:48) Because of course, if we’re locking somebody up for 28 days, of course they’re going to get 28 (24:53) days clean and sober. They’re away from drugs and alcohol.Their phones are taken away, all kinds (24:57) of stuff. But what is it about that program that they’re going to be taking and reintegrating into (25:02) life that they’re going to be able to walk in life with? Because I don’t know about you guys, (25:06) but spending 16 years in addiction, a 28-day program is not enough to absolve all the things (25:17) that I went through in those 16 years. I’m sure that’s the same for everybody out there.We all (25:23) have to do constant work on ourselves, constant work on progress, constant work on letting things (25:28) go that happened in the past. There’s so many other workings and so many other programs that (25:35) we have to do, whether it’s for mental health or whether it’s for our physical health or just being (25:41) able to progress in life, because we beat ourselves up so bad in our addiction. If we (25:47) can take those first 30 days, whatever we did in those first 30 days, and we learned something that (25:53) we can apply to life, that we can bring into life, that gets us to that year mark, that’s what (25:58) success is to me.Does anybody else have different success measurements? If they were talking to a (26:05) rehab facility or if they were talking to a certain kind of program or fellowship or (26:10) something like that, what would be your definition of success if you were asking them, (26:15) what are your success rates? What are your success rates for people that do your program? (26:22) I, for one, I want to know how many people are getting past a year. I just have to know that. (26:28) My twin on five years, let’s go.Amen. I got five years on Sunday. (26:33) Thankful to have come across this.I’m thankful you’re here too, Jamie. It’s good to see you. (26:37) It’s good to see you.When you’re doing the step work with a sponsor, (26:41) there’s so much when you have functional, functional, the awareness skills are (26:45) incredible. Just give it a chance. Give yourself a chance.That’s what we talk about. Give yourself (26:51) a chance. Whatever path, we’re going to talk about more than just the 12 steps.I’m a 12-stepper. (26:57) I got my big book falling apart right here and funny little story for anybody that hasn’t heard (27:02) it. You can kind of see that it’s warped.It’s warped because one time what happened was in 2016, (27:10) I was trying to get clean and sober. I was smoking crack and drinking a tall boy, (27:15) reading the big book. I spilt my tall boy on the big book.I kept the big book. I’m a 12-stepper. (27:23) I love the 12 steps.I also am fully, fully in, I love all forms of recovery. Anything that is (27:32) getting our people away from drugs and alcohol that are killing them. I don’t care if it’s MAT.(27:38) I don’t care if it’s treatment. I don’t care if it’s church. I don’t care if one day you woke up (27:42) and were able to just muster up the willpower and not do it anymore.Whatever it is that’s (27:46) going to make us that you’re not killing yourself, I’m 100% for it. I’m 100% for it. I’m an alumni (27:52) from the Salvation Army Adult Rehab, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania location.The success rate was 24% (27:59) when I went through it. And see, that’s the thing. What is the success rate? (28:02) And I know the Salvation Army is a long program.I believe it’s a six-month program. And what I (28:09) found is that long programs like six months, one year, two years, even these kinds of programs have (28:15) a much higher success rate because of the amount of work that we’re able to do in that amount of (28:20) time, in that amount of time. And guys, when we get back, I’m going to take a quick, we’re going (28:29) to talk about rehabs, the luxury and the basic.We’re going to talk about 12 steps. We’re going (28:35) to talk about medically assisted treatment. And then we’re going to talk about something that I (28:39) did in 2013 that is on the ballot to be legalized in the United States.We’ll be right back after (28:44) this break. Wanted to reach more people with your recovery story and tell it confidently with a (28:49) powerful message of hope? The Recovery Speakers Share Your Story Powerfully course was created (28:54) for addicts and alcoholics in recovery willing and ready to do just that. I become your personal (28:59) coach and guide.And by the end of the course, you will have an incredibly strong mindset about your (29:04) personal value to bring to the world through your story. We’ll have your story prepared to share (29:08) with the exact message you want to deliver with an hour presentation, a half hour presentation, (29:13) a 10 minute presentation, and even an elevator story you can share with people you have less (29:17) than a minute with. You will know all the methods I use that have gotten me featured in places like (29:22) Recovery Today Magazine, Treatment Magazine, Addiction Treatment Magazine, The Addiction (29:26) Podcast, The Fix Podcast, and over 100 others I can’t name in this video.You will also have the (29:32) exact skills I use to make a one take video of my story that has almost 750,000 views on YouTube. (29:38) And when yours is ready, I will share it on this page as well as my YouTube to help you get it out. (29:43) You will then be prepared and brought on to the Recovered On Purpose show as a guest to reach the (29:48) audience with your story and message and will receive a Certificate of Completion certifying (29:52) you as a Recovered On Purpose Recovery Speaker.And don’t just take my word for it, check out (29:57) what students have said. Kimberly said, at the beginning of the course, I get to learn from the (30:01) man himself. I’m so excited to be learning structure and strategy.And when she was finished, (30:06) said, this course has been instrumental for me. I want to get my story out to help women overcome (30:11) trauma and addiction. And I landed my first paid speaking gig within the first 30 days.(30:16) The information you receive in each module, you can apply right then and there. Absolutely amazing (30:21) guidance and fellowship. Crystal published her story into a book and is now a number one best (30:26) selling author.Talk about leaving the identity of just being an addict behind. Andrew said, (30:31) working with Adam has been inspirational and motivational. His enthusiasm is contagious.(30:37) And Brittany shares, the DA who prosecuted me in my addiction now shares my story with (30:42) other women he is prosecuting to give them hope. I have also found sharing my story keeps me (30:47) steadfast in my own recovery. I’m so grateful I went through this course.The list goes on and on (30:52) of people taking this course and living Recovered On Purpose in their lives, serving others out (30:56) there struggling. If this sounds like something that would add value to your life and recovery, (31:00) and you are willing to represent recovery powerfully with your story, go to the description (31:04) of this video and fill out the application for a free call with me about enrolling you in the (31:09) course. Space is limited and at the time of making this video, I have seven spots left for this round (31:14) of students.If you believe one of these is you, leave this live and go set up the call with me (31:19) right now and then come back. If not, but you want to help get the message of hope and recovery out (31:24) to people suffering, I want you to click the share button right now on this video before we go back (31:28) into it. I love you all so much.We are in this together and all bring value to the recovery (31:33) community, reaching the addict out there suffering. Enjoy the rest of the show and keep living (31:38) Recovered On Purpose. Amen, amen.Right now we have six more slots available with this round of (31:45) students. Would love to see anybody in there. And guys, what we’re going to talk about now is, well, (31:50) first I want to talk about this.Kelly put in here, my success was the day I willingly walked (31:55) into rehab and completed. And while I was there, I took everything I possibly could out of it. (32:00) I worked directly on what caused me to use my resentments and trauma.That way, when I completed (32:06) it, I had freedom before I walked out those doors. And this is what I tell everybody that has the (32:11) opportunity to go to treatment. I honestly was not able to go to treatment.I didn’t have the (32:17) resources. Even my probation officer couldn’t get me into treatment. But everybody that goes (32:22) into treatment, you have a certain amount of time in that treatment.It might be a 28-day (32:28) inpatient program. It might be 60 days, whatever it is. In that time, if you do what Kelly did (32:33) and you put everything you have into it, there is nothing else you need to worry about except for (32:38) your recovery in that amount of time.If you have the resources to go to treatment, to go to rehab, (32:45) and you want to quit using drugs and alcohol, it is an amazing resource to get you away from (32:51) everything that you’re doing right now and focus. Focus on recovery. Focus on taking everything you (32:57) possibly can out of it.Learn everything you possibly can. Amen. I believe my treatment center (33:02) success rate is 1%.That is what it is. That is what it is. Nationally, the success rate that they (33:14) are looking at is over one year of recovery.If you go to an opiate inpatient program, (33:22) it is less than 9% if you actually go to the treatment. Amphetamines are around 11%. (33:30) Alcohol is weirdly right around opiates, 9-10%.Everything else, cocaine is at 25%. (33:38) Cocaine and crack is at about 25% because apparently a lot of the different cognitive (33:43) behavioral therapy and different things you can learn when you’re away from those drugs for a (33:47) certain amount of time can work in the short term and really help. Even at 25%, that is one in four (33:55) people that make that decision to go to rehab, that make the decision to go to treatment and (34:00) put their work into it, one in four are making it right now.Why is that? Why is that? Now, (34:07) we’re going to talk about luxury rehabs. These things are like 65K a month and up. A lot of (34:13) you have seen these.You’ve seen the commercials for them where you’re riding a horse on the beach. (34:18) You get to go scuba diving. You get to do all of these different recreational things (34:21) for 28 days, for a month.But why isn’t this working? Why are the success rates so low for (34:28) these? The success rates of luxury rehabs with 65K a month and up are no higher. In a lot of cases, (34:36) they’re actually lower than the ones that are government funded. I believe the reason is we’re (34:42) spending too much money, too much of this 65K on riding horses and on going scuba diving and on (34:51) making it a luxury resort vacation-type style instead of spending the right money on doing the (34:56) group exercises, on doing the cognitive behavioral therapy, on doing the serious (35:02) rehabilitation work that is necessary for an addict that has been out there struggling for (35:06) 16 years.There’s a reason why when we go to rehab, we have so many things that are stopping (35:13) us from being able to stop using. In that time that we have away, in the time that we have away (35:19) from the drugs, in the time we have away from that community that we’re using drugs with, (35:23) we need to have those rehabilitation efforts that are more than just a vacation. We can’t just be (35:31) out of reality for a while and then thrown right back into reality.There’s a lot of things that (35:36) we need to do in early recovery that involves changing our environment. When we are doing an (35:44) inpatient rehab, we should be planning our outpatient immediately. What am I going to do (35:51) when I leave here? What are the tools that I’m learning here that I’m going to be able to take (35:55) into my life that I’m going to be able to do every day, as well as what is in my life when I go home (36:02) that is not good for me? Is there a roommate that is still using that we just need to get (36:06) out of that situation? Are there friends that are going to hit me up right when I get out that I (36:11) just need to block, I just need to get rid of them right now? All of these things, we need to (36:16) be thinking about when we make that decision to go into rehab.And us that are in long-term (36:21) recovery, when we have people that we’re talking to, maybe we’re sponsoring them, maybe we’re (36:25) helping them in some way and they’re going to long-term treatment, we need to be talking to (36:29) them about these things also. What is it when you leave that treatment center, what is it that you’re (36:34) going to be going home to that we need to prepare for? What is it that you’re going home to? What (36:39) is the environment? Who are the people that you’re going to be going home to? And what things (36:42) are you learning in that treatment center that we can apply to life when you come out? And you know, (36:48) if you’re sponsoring, obviously when they come out, it’s vital time. It is vital time.Those first 30 (36:53) days, 40 to 60 percent of people that go into long-term treatment are going to pick up and use (36:59) or pick up and drink in the first 30 days. So when they leave long-term treatment, we need to be (37:05) hammering them with all the love we possibly can, with all the systems, everything we possibly can (37:11) for them to be able to stay in that state of abstinence from drugs and alcohol. And us in (37:17) long-term recovery, we have a responsibility to these people.We have a responsibility to the (37:22) people that are in early recovery. And even if you’re at the 60 days like Kelly, Kelly, it is (37:27) time right now to start helping people that are in that beginning stage, that are in that early (37:34) stage of recovery, trying to stop using drugs and alcohol. This message that you put up here, (37:39) this message that you put up here, I’m going to grab it real quick.(37:44) This message that you put up, Kelly, this is absolutely 100 percent the message you should (37:50) be passing around whenever you go to a meeting, whenever you’re talking on the internet, whenever (37:55) you’re talking on social media, whenever you are around a group of addicts that possibly have (38:01) some people in early recovery in there. This is the message right here. You made the decision to (38:06) go, and when you went, you did the work.You did everything within your power with the time that (38:11) you had there to find the recovery system that works for you, to find the journey that works (38:16) for you, to learn the things that you’re going to be able to apply in life when you come out. (38:20) And the beautiful thing is that when you share that message, when you share this message, (38:25) whether you’re in a meeting or wherever you’re at, or if you go back to that rehab and you’re (38:29) starting to talk in the groups there, the beautiful thing is you may never hear from the people that (38:35) you are touching with that message. You may never hear from most of them, but I can guarantee you (38:41) there’s going to be people in every single meeting that you share this message at that will take this (38:46) message to heart, and it will save their life.It will save their life, especially coming from (38:52) somebody that has 60 days. Me at five years, you know, I believe that I can have a strong message (38:58) and I can say things like this, but coming from somebody that just left treatment, you’ve already, (39:05) you left treatment, you’ve already made it past the 40 to 60% of people that relapsed in the first (39:09) 30 days. So this message is specifically for 40 to 60% of people that are going to leave treatment (39:16) and relapse right away.You could save lives with this message. And that’s what this is all about. (39:22) That’s what it’s all about.And I love that you’re doing it. Love that you’re doing it. (39:26) And building my relationship with God, because he will never fail me.Amen. Amen. I took an (39:32) optional grief recipe, very class when I was in treatment, only 17 of a hundred people took (39:37) the class.I really glad I did. So I learned so much about grieving. I never knew.And like you, (39:43) I was able to find freedom before I left rehab. Amen. Exactly.Exactly. My success was the day (39:49) I entered residential treatment. It was hard to get in, but I fought hard and didn’t give up.I (39:54) finished in eight months with four months of outpatient. So that year was my success. Amen, (39:59) Angelica.And you are super blessed, super blessed to have a year long program, (40:05) a year long program.

And guys, if you have the opportunity to do something like this, (40:09) if you’re out there and you’re struggling and you have any kind of opportunity to do a long (40:16) treatment like this, a long rehab, a year long, take that time. If you are in your addiction (40:24) right now, and you’re afraid of what a year looks like, what you want to see in your mind (40:29) is what a year down the road looks like.If you continue the way you are right now, (40:34) a year of rehab will set you up for everything in the future, everything in the future. (40:39) Your success will be much, much higher in likelihood if you are in something that is (40:45) long-term, where you are re-implementing everything into your life as you do the (40:51) treatment program. Angelica, it’s amazing.Thank you for the message because that (40:54) just sounds like a vacation, more fun than actually working on yourself and working through (40:59) your trauma that keeps us in our addiction, not to mention the skills to help get past our (41:03) triggers. Amen. Exactly.That’s what I’m saying about the really expensive ones. I think it’s, (41:08) and I’m not dogging anybody that’s doing work on helping our community. If somebody has the (41:15) opportunity that has 65K laying around to do treatment, I think that’s great, but the message (41:20) is the same.The message if you have 65K is the same as if you’re on Medicaid. When you get the (41:25) opportunity to go to treatment, to go to rehab, we’ve got to be preaching the message that when (41:30) you’re in there, that’s your time. That is your time to give it 100% effort, to give it everything (41:35) you’ve got to find recovery.That’s the time. That’s the time that we have. You need rehab (41:42) that has structure, get you doing a routine.Amen. I made sure I had a sponsor out here before (41:47) I walked out that door. Amen.

Amen. Amen. Block a user.It’s crazy when you’re doing live videos (41:57) on different things, there’s some weirdos that show up. There’s some weirdos that show up (42:01) sometimes. I don’t know if anybody saw that, but that’s good.That’s good. All right. Now, (42:05) we’re going to talk about basic inpatient and residential rehab.These kinds of things are (42:09) around 20K for the whole kit and caboodle, the whole program. A lot of these are government (42:15) funded. These are the Medicaid treatments.These are the things that you go to a facility for a (42:19) little bit, you might get some detox, and then you have some kind of sober living situation where (42:24) they take you to different groups. They take you to meetings. They take you to government sponsored (42:29) mental health working and things like that.These actually have a higher success rate than (42:37) the luxury 65K treatment centers. Reason being is these are us. These are us.These are us that are (42:45) completely hopeless. We don’t have any resources.

This is our last ditch.This is our last effort. (42:53) This is what we have left. Guys, again, if you have the opportunity to do a treatment like this, (43:00) inpatient, to do something that is a term where you actually have some time to rehabilitate, (43:07) do it.Do it and put everything you have into it because the amount of time that you’ll be in here, (43:12) the amount of time that you’ll be in a basic rehab is worth it. The investment of time that (43:18) you put in to finding recovery is worth every minute after there, every minute after there. (43:24) Because if you are struggling right now, and you’re making the decision whether you’re going (43:28) to treatment or whether you’re going to try this on your own, if you have the opportunity to go to (43:32) treatment, if you have that option, go do it.The only thing that would hold somebody back (43:38) from making the decision to go to the treatment that they have the opportunity to go to (43:42) is a reservation that they don’t actually want to stop using. That is the only thing. (43:47) So if you want to stop using, go do it

Go do it and put everything you have into it. (43:52) Put everything you have into it. Now, 12-step and self-rehabilitation.(43:59) And this is how I found recovery. This is how a lot of people I know found recovery. (44:03) A lot of people found recovery in 12 steps or treatment or a mixture of both.But the (44:08) success rates for the 12-step self-rehabilitation is between 5% and 10%. 5% and 10%. We are not having (44:17) a lot of success in our fellowships anymore.And I think the reason is a lot of us are (44:23) watering down the message with a lot of stuff that wasn’t meant to be there. (44:26) A lot of stuff is in the meetings now.

A lot of things are being said in the meetings that (44:30) just aren’t meant to be there.So when we’re going to these meetings and we have that clean (44:36) 12-step message, we have that story of how we went from hopeless, helpless, we didn’t have (44:43) resources, we weren’t able to go to the treatment, we weren’t able to do any of that stuff. (44:47) We walked into the meetings. And when we started the steps, we built a relationship with God.(44:52) And through the step work, we were able to release a lot of the resentments and a lot of (44:56) the different things that were going on in our head. If we have that clear message, that’s the (45:00) only message we should be sharing in the 12-step rooms. If we had that experience where the 12 (45:06) steps saved our life, we need to be sharing that message and that message only in the 12-step (45:13) rooms.

And if we have that message, if we did the 12 steps and the 12 steps saved us, and if (45:19) you’re out there and you have a clear, clean 12-step message, that’s what you did to find recovery, (45:24) whenever you’re in a meeting and someone new comes in, someone that hasn’t been watered down (45:30) with a whole bunch of other messages, with a bunch of other things that aren’t in the big (45:35) book or aren’t in the basic text, we need to be grabbing them, the people that have the clear (45:40) message, grabbing them and giving them the clear message, offering them the help. Those are the (45:45) people that we can really, really help are the ones that haven’t been watered down with all the (45:51) gratitude lists that keep people sober, the making your bed that keeps you sober, (45:56) all of these things.

And I talk a lot about doing gratitude lists and making your bed and all that (46:00) stuff is amazing to do when you’re in recovery, but that’s not what you’re doing to find recovery.(46:08) That’s not where you’re doing to find recovery. And if someone new is in there and someone is (46:12) struggling, looking for a message of hope, looking for what’s actually going to get them (46:16) clean and sober, we have to deliver it with depth and weight as if their life depends on it. (46:22) And we can’t be giving them all these different solutions when there’s really one.The 12-step (46:28) message is very clear. You go to meetings, but the meetings were actually made for newcomers to (46:36) find the fellowship that they seek. They weren’t made for people in long-term recovery to feel (46:43) better about themselves.

That’s not what the 12-step fellowships were created for. They were (46:49) created for us to continue to get together and continue working on this, but mostly for newcomers (46:54) to find a meeting and to find this way of life. So if you are in long-term recovery, (46:59) and you’re in a 12-step fellowship, and you’re going to these meetings, make sure that you are (47:04) the one that is standing up and making a clear message, delivering a clear message of what this (47:10) fellowship is about, what the steps are about, what we’re in here doing together.Because that person, (47:16) you may be the only time that person gets the message that’s really clear, that’s actually (47:21) clear. And so it’s super, super important. Now, medically assisted treatment.And this is a thing (47:27) that is getting a whole bunch of different backlash. And if there’s anybody on this live (47:31) that is willing to share that medically assisted treatment helped them. I have stories of friends.(47:39) Personally, I just didn’t have the opportunity to do medically assisted treatment. But this is (47:44) actually having a lot of success for people. And we got to quit saying things and these different (47:50) things that we’re saying to people that Suboxone isn’t sober, or those things are killing people.(47:58) We have to come together and form a community that is willing to help all forms of recovery, (48:04) all pathways of recovery. We can’t be kicking people out or telling people they’re not welcome (48:08) if they’re on medically assisted treatment.

I would much rather somebody be on Suboxone than (48:13) banging fentanyl.I would much rather if it was my brother, or it was my sister, or it was my best (48:19) friend. I would much rather them be doing medically assisted treatment than be doing the drugs that (48:23) are killing them. And then I’ve got one more for you guys that I want to talk about.I’m actually (48:29) kind of excited about. I’ve never shared this publicly, but in 2013, I was struggling with a (48:37) three gram a day heroin habit. And I just made a video about this today, but I want to talk about (48:42) it on this live.I had a three gram a day heroin habit. And I went down to Mexico and did something (48:47) called Ibogaine. And my experience with it was I had lost all my hope, all my hope.And I was (48:56) Googling for all kinds of different stuff, like how to quit using heroin and all this stuff. And (48:59) I ended up finding search on Ibogaine. And after looking for different treatment centers and doing (49:05) all this stuff, I found one.

My business partners and I decided to pay for me to go down there. (49:10) I go down there with a three gram a day heroin habit. I am this close to dead.And when I go (49:15) down there, I do the Ibogaine and I’m in a bed, like basically in a comatose state, tripping hard. (49:23) I went through my whole life. I had conversations with like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln (49:27) and stuff.It was a trip. But when I came out of that trip, I had no withdrawals and I had (49:34) no craving for drugs. It was incredibly, incredibly intense.And what this does, (49:41) what this Ibogaine does, it’s a root of a plant, root of the Iboga plant. And what it does is it (49:47) actually resets our opiate receptors. And it makes our brain in a state of neuroplasticity.And what (49:54) that means is we’re able to reform habits. All the habits that we formed up to that point, (49:59) we’re able to reform. And oftentimes that neuroplastic state can last three to six months.(50:06) The issue that happened with me when I went down there to do it is that the center I went down to (50:10) wasn’t doing it as a drug rehabilitation center.

They were just doing it as an Ibogaine retreat. (50:16) So when I finished my Ibogaine treatment, when I finished my trip, they were giving me weed.And (50:21) then they sent me home back to the States with a sheet of acid. So I was micro dosing acid for like (50:27) a month and a half. And then I was using heroin within six months again.But imagine, and this (50:34) is on the ballot right now. This is on the ballot in Colorado right now. I don’t think it’s going to (50:41) get passed just because they have mescaline, ayahuasca, mushrooms, all kinds of different (50:45) stuff in this ballot.And I believe though, a hundred percent that Ibogaine should be used in (50:51) the United States for the detox of opiate addicts. A hundred percent. Because if I was in a place (50:59) where they had given me a legitimate outpatient program, like once I did that treatment, they (51:03) weren’t giving me weed and they weren’t giving me acid.But once I did that Ibogaine treatment and (51:07) I came out of it, they started plugging me into fellowships.

They started plugging me into (51:12) outpatient treatment. They started plugging me into a life plan.They started making these new (51:16) habits instilled in me. And I didn’t go home to the same environment, to that same dead end (51:22) apartment where I lived alone with needles all over the place and stuff like that. If I would (51:27) have gone home to a different environment, I would have had an opportunity to get clean right then (51:32) with this thing right here, with this right here.And I’m a proponent for all forms and all (51:43) pathways of recovery, especially if it’s something that is specifically to help opiate addicts. (51:49) 

I don’t think anything should be off the table to help opiate addicts right now because we’re (51:53) losing over 107,000 people in the United States per year just from opiates. Like, come on.And this (52:00) is on the ballot right now in Colorado being voted on in four days. And if it gets passed, (52:07) we have a lot of opportunity to help a lot of people in Colorado. It probably won’t be able (52:12) to be used until 2025, 2026 is what they’re saying, even if it does get passed just because of all the (52:18) different things they have to do to set up the systems to make it actually legal to use.

But (52:23) guys, if you’re out there struggling with opiate addiction or someone close to you is struggling (52:29) with opiate addiction, make sure that you’re reaching out. I have resources for this specifically (52:34) and would love to talk to you guys about it. Would love to talk to you about it.I would (52:37) love to help anybody find the treatment that they need in order to find recovery. I’m not (52:42) partnered with any treatment centers in the United States. I’m not partnered with anybody.(52:46) I don’t do any kind of marketing like that, but I am a hundred percent in for helping people find (52:51) what’s going to help them find recovery. I love you guys. I hope you have an amazing, amazing (52:56) weekend.You guys are the reason why I do this. I love every single one of you. This is an (53:03) amazing, amazing opportunity to talk with you guys on a regular basis.I have five years on (53:10) Sunday. I have five years on Sunday. Five years ago right now, I was homeless.

I was at the darkest (53:15) time of my life. Now I have the opportunity to talk to you all about recovery. I love you.(53:22) Keep doing everything that you’re doing to find recovery. If you’re in recovery, (53:26) progress to the next level. There is more for you.You are worthy. You are called. You are loved.(53:32) You are powerful. God is with you. I love you.Enjoy the rest of your weekend and keep living.

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